tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post5659793683203271521..comments2024-01-24T04:02:06.466-05:00Comments on Why I De-Converted from Evangelical Christianity: "Biblical (or Nouthetic) Counseling"--Another Way to Keep Women DownKen Pulliamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12161943466797514854noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-83832693112087694152022-03-02T02:20:57.515-05:002022-03-02T02:20:57.515-05:00When God starts working in our lives; we tend to g...When God starts working in our lives; we tend to get scared and take a dive. He moves in so many ways in our lives that it still amazes me each time. <a href="https://graceworldchristianfellowship.com/contact" rel="nofollow">Black churches in Riverside ca</a><br />Tino Best https://www.blogger.com/profile/13614613281613368425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-42795992899239185532021-10-28T07:29:03.929-04:002021-10-28T07:29:03.929-04:00Great job
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I would like to appreciate the effort you put for this post and of course thanks for sharing. <br /> Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05760813062380351900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-15259893393204761142019-09-30T07:03:51.278-04:002019-09-30T07:03:51.278-04:00This is a great learning platform.This is a great learning platform.Stellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08738986808241473824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-86138964677966907942016-09-22T00:49:25.950-04:002016-09-22T00:49:25.950-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bigger picturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17320939326114890660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-18508118707130345522015-12-18T00:23:53.629-05:002015-12-18T00:23:53.629-05:00True biblical counseling is to get a person into t...True biblical counseling is to get a person into the Word and have them arrive to an understanding of what God says concerning my situation. Too often, even in biblical counseling, the counselor presents their presuppositions that are not even close to the actual Scriptural application. Take the issue of divorce, there are situations in which a woman can indeed divorce when one looks at Jewish literature. The problem as presented in the previous post is that there tends to be biblical malpractice going on. G. Caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11347794128375977943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-80219772900187158072015-11-10T18:13:01.427-05:002015-11-10T18:13:01.427-05:00It seems to me that people in this string of comme...It seems to me that people in this string of comments are using single examples of malpractice or narrow mindedness to support their conclusions. Most do not support biblical counseling, and use their negative experiences to express outrage at their departure from confidence in the wisdom found in the scriptures when it was not provided by a wise, loving biblically approved elder. What has transpired in this commentary is the commentators have nearly all described egregious examples of the malpractice of biblical counseling. The truth is that a good biblical or secular counselor is going to be effective and a bad one is not. Statistically, there will be more secular malpractice in counseling because there are more secular counselors. Personal anecdotes have a place, but if you are a Christian, the love and grace of God can come to mean a great deal to you. It is a narrow path, and one to be sought after diligently. It is not the broad path. There are many false teachings out there which will increase in the end times. We believers should all seek out the Lord from wise counselors and be quick to recognize the many wolves among us and those who promote religious laws rather than growing into the maturity of the Lord under the care of a loving wise Christian. The scriptures teach we will know we are Christians by our love, and we will know a tree by its fruit, and that not everyone who says, "Lord, Lord, didn't we do this and that" are actually Christians, but rather those who are kind and loving to those in need. Christianity is never about a method, but about a man, Jesus Christ, and what He did for mankind, and what we do when we believe in Him. People always seek to create a formula for God... secular or otherwise. The truth is that BOTH systems of how to address man's problems are faith based. It is a MYTH that they psychological health profession is based in empiracal fact more than a variety of theories. Does the Bible have answers for the maladies of man? Yes. Can they be maligned? Yes. Does psychotherapy have answers? Yes. Can they be maligned? Yes. The difference is that the biblical counseling is really the act of discipleship, and those of us who believe by faith through grace that Jesus was and is, have a different relationship with the Word of God than those who do not. The misapplication of the Word can keep you from finding the love, wisdom and healing of the Lord, but you must seek and keep on seeking; knock and keep on knocking. Pray, and a very real Holy Spirit will help you. Believer Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08810899771701249158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-60897078566062161352015-05-27T04:34:58.697-04:002015-05-27T04:34:58.697-04:00Great post. It is old but quite enough to consult...Great post. It is old but quite enough to consult any body. Because it has great information about consoling. <br /><a href="http://mmcdonald.com.au/psychologist/marriage-counselling" rel="nofollow">Marriage Counselling</a><br />elieasa marrieahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09872738702157608934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-75439500264110864442015-05-19T15:48:02.166-04:002015-05-19T15:48:02.166-04:00I know this is an old post, but man... I am teachi...I know this is an old post, but man... I am teaching on biblical counseling now and the book for the class is Jay Adams "A Theology of Christian Counseling"... needless to say, I have stopped reading it and am crushed that the students MUST read it! The arrogance is unreal. Funny thing is... I am teaching the students methods I have learned from great men of God such as Charles Solomon (whom Adams bashes) and John Glenn. A Child of Godhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09836566468244019405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-57251285405029870642015-03-31T06:23:19.475-04:002015-03-31T06:23:19.475-04:00Join Millions of Singles in and around the world a...Join Millions of Singles in and around the world and find your Interracial dream partner today.<br /><a href="http://interracialrelationship.net/interracial-dating/" title="Interracial Dating" rel="nofollow"><b><i>Interracial Dating</i></b></a><br /><a href="http://interracialrelationship.net/interracial-dating" title="Black Women Dating" rel="nofollow"><b><i>Black Women Dating</i></b></a><br /><a href="http://interracialrelationship.net/" title="Interracial Marriages" rel="nofollow"><b><i>Interracial Marriages</i></b></a><br /><a href="http://interracialrelationship.net/" title="Interracial Marriages" rel="nofollow"><b><i>Interracial Marriages</i></b></a><br />Kevin Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13677784432479273323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-40009884969399547442014-11-02T02:51:25.269-05:002014-11-02T02:51:25.269-05:00we urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, emcour...we urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, emcourage the faint-hearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone. (1 Thessalonians 5:14) Omeliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00014856608692807109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-38891175299900896902014-02-05T16:39:48.031-05:002014-02-05T16:39:48.031-05:00Hello,
I was quite surprised to get an email that ...Hello,<br />I was quite surprised to get an email that included a link to an article that included our name “Cornerstone Counselling”. While Clare’s location in Ontario makes it unlikely that she is referring to our Centre in Alberta, I thought I would make a couple of clarifications.<br />Our agency employs Register Psychologists, Clinical Social Workers, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapists and Certified Canadian Counsellors who are all accredited by outside, secular organizations. All these counsellors must abide by the same code of ethics that every other counsellor in their accrediting organization does. Our counsellors have at least a master’s degree with the exception of the master’s level practicum students who receive training and support at our centre. Although I have not worked for Catholic Social Services, it is my understanding that they have similar standards for their counsellors. <br />In 2013, approximately 55% of our clients self-identified themselves as not participating in any faith or as belonging to a faith other than Christianity. We offer faith based and secular counselling using a variety of approaches including CBT, Narrative, Jungian, and Existential. <br />Until today, I had never heard of Jay Adams and I have never been involved in Bill Gothard’s teachings. I think it is a mistake to hold these two writers up as examples typical of Christian counsellors. Throughout our city there are Christian counsellor providing professional services in their private practices and government agencies. Further, there are Christian judges, nurses, social workers, etc., who hold their own beliefs while fulfilling their professional obligations. <br />Our mission is to demonstrate the love of Christ by helping people become renewed and whole. Our goal is to have each client feel that they received professional help in an atmosphere of respect, acceptance, and compassion.<br />Sheila Stauffer R.S.W.<br />Executive Director<br />Cornerstone Counselling Centre<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01737690701712701549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-9566047700638075692014-02-05T16:34:44.314-05:002014-02-05T16:34:44.314-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01737690701712701549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-84703078892641563632012-04-29T18:37:18.295-04:002012-04-29T18:37:18.295-04:00I've taken the bait,hook,line,and sinker...the...I've taken the bait,hook,line,and sinker...the whole enchilada...the Word of God,Jesus...theres no other name under heaven whereby we can be saved ,but only by the name of Jesus. Saved means to make WHOLE. Did not the Messiah, Jesus say that He came to set the captive free? Did He not make whole so many through His miracles? Why would it be any different today, moreso, did not He send the Holy Spirit, that testify's the truth of His promise that He would. Read the Book of James, Chapter 5. We are admonished about praying and confessing sin and being made whole. My Wonderful and Mighty Counselor is Jesus...who is yours???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-14807327868258742462010-11-16T22:57:58.647-05:002010-11-16T22:57:58.647-05:00I forgot to add - check out www.psychoheresy-aware...I forgot to add - check out www.psychoheresy-aware.org. Martin and Diedre Bobgan were in on the early days of NC and left it when they realized how unbiblical it is. They have written several books exposing the flaws in the movement, and the books are all free e-books! These guys are awesome, and are fighting a hard battle.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02543787680407650615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-70316573411001907702010-11-16T22:42:57.579-05:002010-11-16T22:42:57.579-05:00Our daughter-in-law has her Masters in Biblical Co...Our daughter-in-law has her Masters in Biblical Counseling from Master's College. We are born-again, evangelical believers who raised our children in a Christian home, and who managed to "counsel" and be "counseled" before Jay Adams appeared on the scene. We fought the "self-esteem movement" of the 70s, helped friends with marriage problems, guided a son who was molested by his uncle (and pastor), and we are absolutely sickened by this movement. Our grandchildren are being raised as "evil daughters of Eve" (has anyone else heard this expression?), and being taught that "Daddy ALWAYS makes wise decisions." It's scary hogwash. They are a very unhappy couple, he now does most of the housework, they are going to a church that operates like a cult, and they have less insight into life than most unbelievers. The truly sad thing is the model of discipline they employ - many, many vicious spankings with the "whacker" for the least offenses. Our son is now teaching "parenting seminars" on how early you may begin using the whacker (9 months is his date), how many hits for what offense, the use of "Xs" drawn on the hand when they are out (at one point he bragged about giving his 4 year old 30 hits before she "broke") and of course, the "restoration" nonsense. We're contemplating turning them in for child abuse. Their kids (4 girls, oldest is 6, youngest is 12 months) now sit at their own table for all meals (except the 12 month old who is in a high chair). We are praying that God judges this wicked movement. I heard that Jay Adams has now written a new translation of the NT, titled, appropriately, "The Christian Counselor's New Testament", wherein he translates the Greek word "nouthos" as "counsel" in every case. Shame! And yes, we've heard of several examples of the woman being blamed for the sin of the man. Get away from the Word of God, and you lose! And the depths of the sin is incredible.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02543787680407650615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-54517879479391995612010-10-02T11:32:39.376-04:002010-10-02T11:32:39.376-04:00Well, my friend Penny received secular, non-direct...Well, my friend Penny received secular, non-directive, active-listening (aka Carl Rogers method) counseling from a nun when she was 17 years old (over 30 years ago). She said "The nun looked at me with an understanding expression & left me to fend for myself in deciding whether to have an abortion or not. This so-called 'Christian counselor' gave me the impression she was there to support me in whatever decision I chose. I consider what she did to me CRUEL! lt showed a lack of Christian compassion for me & for my baby." This is how counseling WITHOUT the absolute truth of the Bible works out. Everything is 'relative' & 'situational ethics' rules the day. Penny wrote: "Biblical counseling (aka TRUTH) would have told me that: 1) my baby was personally designed, created by God in His image & likeness (& so was I) 2) abortion would dismember my baby 3) God has commanded "You shall not murder", so murder is a sin 4) I could personally choose a loving couple to be my son or daughter's forever family (adoption) 5) There were maternity homes where I could live as I continued my pregnancy 6) sex outside marriage is called the sin fornication and it is forbidden by God 7) unless I repented of all my sin & trusted in Jesus Christ. I would reap what I had sown in life & be cast into the lake of fire at the judgment. That is what I NEEDED to hear instead of the hogwash of the empty vanity of secular active-listening. Perhaps my baby would alive & a father himself today, if that nun had been faithful to tell me the God's honest truth."Pattehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06118774097481757435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-35415122922852010082010-10-02T11:10:15.718-04:002010-10-02T11:10:15.718-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Pattehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06118774097481757435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-26397584557984614172010-08-22T16:11:07.107-04:002010-08-22T16:11:07.107-04:00Stumbled across your blog and just wanted to make ...Stumbled across your blog and just wanted to make a few comments. I'm a born again Christian, who does some counselling. My wife suffers from clinical depression and one of my sons is a schizophrenic. The help of secular psychiatrists and psychologists is something we are very thankful for. Their professionalism augments our faith. <br /><br />Also with the many congregations I have been associated, I know of none who would have treated this 15 year old girl like you have suggested. All of them would have reported Phelps to the authorities… A 15 year cannot give consent to someone in a place of authority or trust. Seems to me you’ve taken the extreme to paint us all with the same brush.<br /><br />JBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-18544543105937520512010-07-05T21:59:47.089-04:002010-07-05T21:59:47.089-04:00Gothard and the Jay Adams trained counselors that ...Gothard and the Jay Adams trained counselors that I sought for suicidal depression did nothing for me. One even suggested that my mental habit of considering suicide as an option for dealing with my sin was a healthy mental exercise for me. That was until I actually put a loaded gun to my chest. The therapist that was given to me by the hospital saved my life and my mind. I shudder to think how many people Adams, Gothard, and their students led right into the grave.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09724993438280724378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-73812185921025150112010-07-05T12:00:49.305-04:002010-07-05T12:00:49.305-04:00As someone who suffered through Christian therapy ...As someone who suffered through Christian therapy for anorexia as a teenager, I think that pastors and Christian therapists who incorporate their religious beliefs into their practice are doing serious harm, and while adults can make their own choices, I think it's wrong to send your child/teen to a Christian counselor. I was just made to feel worse by the counselor I saw - as if my eating disorder was my fault, as if I was being stubborn and rebellious, and as if a closer relationship with God was all it would take to heal me (implying that I wasn't close enough to God, which I found hurtful at the time).<br /><br />This sort of thing is dangerous, and these counselors and pastors are playing with fire - mixing powerful messages of guilt and shame with discouragement of helpful resources (medication, cognitive therapy, etc.) in situations where there's real danger - alcoholism, spousal or child abuse, suicide, etc.JulietEchohttp://forum.friendlyatheist.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=61noreply@blogger.com