tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post1582201142413277182..comments2024-01-24T04:02:06.466-05:00Comments on Why I De-Converted from Evangelical Christianity: Will Atheism Eventually Replace Religion?Ken Pulliamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12161943466797514854noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-85362894352364082302022-10-03T10:30:00.733-04:002022-10-03T10:30:00.733-04:00MiniTool Partition Wizard Pro Crack is beautiful s...MiniTool Partition Wizard Pro Crack is beautiful software that can help users maintain disk space.<br /> Suppose one part of the disk means folder C, or folder D, and how to keep the area of these folders and how you can increase the space.<br /><a rel="nofollow">MiniTool Power Data Recovery 9.0 Crack</a><br />Crackszhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15692778927971946676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-59859714966835673132010-06-09T01:59:08.832-04:002010-06-09T01:59:08.832-04:00People saying that Islam is the problem and not Ch...People saying that Islam is the problem and not Christianity are conveniently ignoring the continent of Africa, where Christianity inspires people to accuse and torture children for witchcraft, and the American right-wing has been instrumental in pushing for capital punishment for homosexuals.<br />Just because Christianity has been tempered by the Enlightenment in the West doesn't mean it's horrors can't rise again in other parts of the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-15156118337142192302010-06-08T14:16:17.800-04:002010-06-08T14:16:17.800-04:00"It is doubtful that a person could be electe..."It is doubtful that a person could be elected as President of the United States who admitted he or she was an atheist."<br /><br />50 years ago it was probably just as doubtful that a black person would be president of the United States. But it happened! And, both of his parents were atheists, so we are currently one degree of separation from having an atheist president.<br /><br />I think we might have an openly atheist president in 50 years. At least, I hope so.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12762450398018434571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-46145196812711795472010-06-08T08:24:41.627-04:002010-06-08T08:24:41.627-04:00"Eliminating these conflicts and taking all t..."Eliminating these conflicts and taking all the money that is devoted to religion and redirecting it to a better purpose would make the world much better. Is that going to happen? No, not in my lifetime and probably not ever since man is a religious animal"<br /><br /><br />I guess that wood be a interesting experiment. But if you have it your way it seem that to be consistent, you got no God, so no ultimate moals, so no truth, so everyone can make the world in a way that wood be the best for them to survive. So now it come down truth being what is decided on in each comunity or cultere.<br /> <br />So now you are right back to us vs. them, because as we all know, my moral belives are way better than yours, hence my comunity is better. <br /><br />"Say what? You say yours is better? Wanna fight about it...?"chaz millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05211095136616062874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-59479772423290156562010-06-07T20:32:36.159-04:002010-06-07T20:32:36.159-04:00Grace says:
I think these terms are extremely sub...Grace says:<br /><br /><i>I think these terms are extremely subjective. I personally would define "liberal" spiritually as someone with unitarian, or even diestic like views.</i><br /><br />My definitions are subjective since I am simply giving my opinion about what I would like to see happen. Others will surely disagree.<br /><br /><i>Does Dr. McGrath affirm the Nicene Creed of the church? If so, then I wouldn't consider him particularly liberal.</i><br /><br />He does not believe that Jesus was the literal incarnation of Yahweh. So yeah, I would say he is not very orthodox.Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08597511645534603563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-61514031196345095662010-06-07T20:21:35.874-04:002010-06-07T20:21:35.874-04:00Dan, and Walter,
I think these terms are extremel...Dan, and Walter,<br /><br />I think these terms are extremely subjective. I personally would define "liberal" spiritually as someone with unitarian, or even diestic like views.<br /><br />Does Dr. McGrath affirm the Nicene Creed of the church? If so, then I wouldn't consider him particularly liberal.<br /><br />But, that's my opinion.<br /><br />It also seems to me that it's quite possible to be open, and questioning within a more orthodox paradigm, for want of a better term, and to be dogmatic, and judgmental within a spiritually progressive worldview.<br /><br />To me, it depends more in how a person has come to their view, and especially their attitude, and response toward those who may disagree.Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018475588969974790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-75146865524574655872010-06-07T18:55:47.478-04:002010-06-07T18:55:47.478-04:00Dan asks:
Who defines "fanatical fundamental...Dan asks:<br /><br /><i>Who defines "fanatical fundamentalism"? Who defines "liberal faith"?</i><br /><br />My example of a fanatical fundamentalist would be just about every conservative Calvinist that I have ever had the displeasure of interacting with. A good example of a liberal Christian whose blog I read regularly would be Dr. James F. McGrath found over at <i>exploringourmatrix.blogspot.com</i>. He has a "questioning" kind of faith that I find very refreshing compared to the extremely dogmatic Fred Phelps types that I usually butt heads with.Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08597511645534603563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-2441760851315819262010-06-07T17:58:08.799-04:002010-06-07T17:58:08.799-04:00I think someone had a horrible experience with rel...I think someone had a horrible experience with religion and may be extrapolating that experience too far.<br /><br />Can religion be harmful? Yes. Can any ideology taken to the extreme be harmful? Yes. Eugenics, Communism, National Socialism.... <br /><br />Politicized religion is as much a social by-product as Communism.... where there is great injustice and inequality - there are extreme ideological reactions to it.<br /><br />Hindu ideology is inherently against harming living beings. Why then do Hindus take up arms? It's not Hinduism that ought to be blamed as the culprit. Look for resource conflicts, in-group/out-group mentality, and the inherent conflict between those who have power and those who do not have it.<br /><br />Atheism isn't going to change the nature of resource conflicts, in-group vs out-group, nor haves vs. have nots.<br /><br />Atheism is not going to bring about some magical utopia. From one extreme to the next, Ken. Caute.Samuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06102533726798834757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-79251917642267129652010-06-07T16:35:12.290-04:002010-06-07T16:35:12.290-04:00I am not saying that religion should be outlawed. ...I am not saying that religion should be outlawed. I am saying that in my opinion, the world would be better off without it. Yes, I realize that not every Muslim is a terrorist. I never said that they were. But if one was able to wave a magic wand and make Islam disappear, it would take away many conflicts. Not only with regard to radical Islam vs. the West but also the conflicts due to Sunni vs. Shia, and lets not forget about Islamists vs. Hindus in places like India. <br /><br />Eliminating these conflicts and taking all the money that is devoted to religion and redirecting it to a better purpose would make the world much better. Is that going to happen? No, not in my lifetime and probably not ever since man is a religious animal.Ken Pulliamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12161943466797514854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-32098418266662512832010-06-07T16:24:42.705-04:002010-06-07T16:24:42.705-04:00Walter: "I would just like to see fanatical f...Walter: "I would just like to see fanatical fundamentalism die. I have no problem with those who hold a more liberal faith."<br /><br />Who defines "fanatical fundamentalism"? Who defines "liberal faith"?Dan Wilkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14437736905217016441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-58062996489343422952010-06-07T15:12:15.575-04:002010-06-07T15:12:15.575-04:00Actually, most Muslims are fundamentalist in the W...Actually, most Muslims are fundamentalist in the Western sense of the word and the more "moderate" version still takes the Koran as the literal word of God--with all of its notions of violence and conquest thoroughly intact. Of course, many of the Muslims here are "tolerant" of Americans but thats only because they lack in numbers.Harryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10434155256347020690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-12466599784502436222010-06-07T14:25:15.492-04:002010-06-07T14:25:15.492-04:00I would just like to see fanatical fundamentalism ...I would just like to see fanatical fundamentalism die. I have no problem with those who hold a more liberal faith.<br /><br />Less dogma and more healthy skepticism.Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08597511645534603563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-7142641527065427862010-06-07T12:12:29.408-04:002010-06-07T12:12:29.408-04:00I can't wait for the day when atheism replaces...I can't wait for the day when atheism replaces religion. But you Atheists better be careful for what you wish for. If there is no religion, that would mean you'd have to find something else to blame all your problems on. And you wouldn't have mean Christians to compare yourselves to, to make you feel so good about your morality or about how smart you are. Just look over to your right at all the "labels", what da hell are you gonna bitch about?<br /><br />But I can see some good in the fact that you guys can finally get an Atheist in the White House. And parents will finally let the godless babysit their kids. Also a public High School might actually win a state title in football? <br /><br />I can see it now the brand new Atheist Memorial Hospital. Right next to the Richard Dawkins Homeless shelter. Well, I almost forgot, in a world with out religion the sick and homeless problem will be snuffed out. Now that Christians aren't there to impede progress. <br /><br />And all those times when you were at a wedding reception and the D.J. played Y.M.C.A by the Village People and you refused to dance because you had to make the letter C. You can just change the lyrics to Y.M.A.A and have fun with normal people again.<br /><br />It will be like Heaven. (oops, sorry if the word heaven offended any one). I mean it will be real nice. The only real problem that could arise is that if we were to become a free thinking society many free thinkers might have to question their lack of beliefs and become theists?<br /><br />Peace out girl scouts, feenofeenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07483769284197614547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-70937769944385255522010-06-07T12:02:38.061-04:002010-06-07T12:02:38.061-04:00Regarding Barber's first point,"Religion ...Regarding Barber's first point,"Religion is no longer necessary to cope with economic and health-related uncertainties," I am not particularly sanguine. The Great Depression aside, the twentieth century was a period marked by rapidly rising prosperity and a rapidly rising human population. This is a trend that is simply not sustainable. I fear that the twenty-first century could be the period when the chickens come home to roost, when everything goes all to hell. The Great Recession of 2008 could be merely a curtain-raiser. I have already read anecdotal accounts of people who have lost their jobs turning to religion as a coping mechanism.<br /><br />If things really do go to hell in coming decades as I fear, Barber's third point, "Religion is less popular with the more educated," may also become less relevant as fewer people are able to afford the luxury of acquiring advanced educations.Northlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00769117142960558423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-68513075388661336062010-06-07T11:17:14.192-04:002010-06-07T11:17:14.192-04:00CNeil,
Thanks for the correction.CNeil,<br /><br />Thanks for the correction.Ken Pulliamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12161943466797514854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-27325610428531258922010-06-07T08:40:48.272-04:002010-06-07T08:40:48.272-04:00I can only hope that atheism will be the way of th...I can only hope that atheism will be the way of things to come since societies that reach a rational mode of thought naturally tend to do better: http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html<br /><br />The only danger I see is that human beings being the irrational dumb beasts they are will glom on to some other type of woo or delusion.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12565621013251370015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-6968062465548825232010-06-07T08:26:30.261-04:002010-06-07T08:26:30.261-04:00Oops, you're out of date here. David Milliband...Oops, you're out of date here. David Milliband is not UK foreign secretary. His party (Labour) was ousted from power early last month. We now have a coalition government of Conservatives (traditionally to the right) and Liberal Democrats (centre). The deputy prime minister and leader of the Liberal Democrats is Nick Clegg, an 'out' atheist. Asked in the election campaign if he was 'a man of faith', Nick replied 'no, but my wife is'. <br />(Think about it!).Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04180672737516644222noreply@blogger.com