tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post4509562763670970029..comments2024-01-24T04:02:06.466-05:00Comments on Why I De-Converted from Evangelical Christianity: Evangelicals Attempt to Defend Slavery in 18th and 19th Century America--Part FourKen Pulliamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12161943466797514854noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-73450613144635485782018-08-13T14:40:54.988-04:002018-08-13T14:40:54.988-04:00you should be an evangelical christian based on wh...you should be an evangelical christian based on what man did. Nope. You are to be one based on what Jesus did. This pathetic excuse to turn from Biblical truth should not be taken seriously.Korihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00582224480928388559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-79388278203814763512015-03-19T02:14:37.046-04:002015-03-19T02:14:37.046-04:00Ken - Thanks for the post. The blew off evangelic...Ken - Thanks for the post. The blew off evangelicalism years ago - recognizing the trinity and the deity of Christ were BS. However, knowing Christ was very separate. Likewise recognizing issues in the Bible - and more so as I get to know it better even after 35 years. However, again, knowing Christ is very different. I think it is a mistake to equate Jesus to the Bible - Jesus simply used the OT because it was the reference of those He ministered to. I do the same...Greg Loganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17414357232248958845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-60882038310540596912015-03-19T02:06:58.213-04:002015-03-19T02:06:58.213-04:00Thanks - that is exactly the truth. As well as mu...Thanks - that is exactly the truth. As well as murdering infidels - and those in the nation who disobey God - with stones and fire.Greg Loganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17414357232248958845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-36539416776294860542015-03-19T02:05:30.416-04:002015-03-19T02:05:30.416-04:00Thanks Lynn - great question!! The reality, of co...Thanks Lynn - great question!! The reality, of course, is that these blind fools were lost in their own sinful and pathetic deceit before God in so many ways - beginning with their adherence to the murderous barbarian John Calvin. Once you depart from Christ - there is no where but down.Greg Loganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17414357232248958845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-8484214719518223122010-06-01T17:41:29.627-04:002010-06-01T17:41:29.627-04:00The bond between the Reformed theologians and such...The bond between the Reformed theologians and such a rigid set of doctrines of inerrancy always seems odd to me. Fundamentalism at its heart.<br /><br />"<i>Its interesting that the co-author is associated with the League of the South, a group advocating "a free and independent South."</i>"<br /><br />It is interesting! I wonder if Wilson regrets his connections there now. Or maybe he himself supports a Christian theocracy rising from the ashes of the former Confederacy. That would not shock me too much. :^(atimetorendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10563649474540441597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-46822552939749047782010-06-01T14:48:28.396-04:002010-06-01T14:48:28.396-04:00atimetorend,
No, I haven't read it. Thank for...atimetorend,<br /><br />No, I haven't read it. Thank for the link. I think Wilson realizes as the other Reformed men I have discussed realized, namely that the Bible endorses slavery and if one wants to hold on to it as divinely inspired, then one better find a way to defend it. Wilson does this by saying that the slavery in the Old South really wasn't all that bad. Its interesting that the co-author is associated with the League of the South, a group advocating "a free and independent South."Ken Pulliamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12161943466797514854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-44520288592580122432010-06-01T14:18:41.306-04:002010-06-01T14:18:41.306-04:00Have you read Douglas Wilson's Southern Slaver...Have you read Douglas Wilson's Southern Slavery As It Was" pamphlet? It has been a while since I read it, but as I recall it attempts to clear up what the authors perceive as misconceptions over slavery, recognizing moral failings, but also trying to make the point that slavery in the US was not as bad as people today make it out to have been.<br /><br />Which leaves me with the question, why would Wilson want to make that point, other than to show that abolition of slavery is not taught in the bible. It is surprising that such a teaching today can come from a person of such high regard in certain Reformed circles.<br /><br />Here is a link to the pamphlet online:<br /><br />http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse/SSAIW_Title_Page.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-56157146272028127382010-05-30T13:30:53.071-04:002010-05-30T13:30:53.071-04:00Sorry, I posted this accidentally in the wrong pla...Sorry, I posted this accidentally in the wrong place. It is supposed to refer to Ken's next post re penal substitution.Clarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17836679819711814306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-32749236728461699502010-05-30T11:00:47.423-04:002010-05-30T11:00:47.423-04:00It is popular because it makes people feel good ab...<i>It is popular because it makes people feel good about themselves (emphasis added) in spite of their not following the challenging parts of the Bible that have to do with how we relate to others.</i><br />That is why I do not trust people who call themselves "Christians". They feel free to be dishonest because of the above.<br /> The ideas of sin and subsequent guilt feelings are encouraged by clergy. It is all about the power and the money. If you don't go to church,and do not believe in God, you are only responsible to others and to yourself. If you do not harm others, then there is nothing to feel guilty for and therefore no need for penal substitution. Christians, put down that heavy suitcase of guilt, and take responsibility for your own behaviour.Clarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17836679819711814306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-54961430105350399652010-05-29T05:10:51.829-04:002010-05-29T05:10:51.829-04:00Then, as today, people supposedly see what God is ...Then, as today, people supposedly see what God is trying to teach them. Preachers are always telling us what God's purpose is in an event. HOW do they know these things?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-882699495059104312.post-82804543666826334742010-05-29T04:42:26.811-04:002010-05-29T04:42:26.811-04:00Fascinating reading, thanks Ken. I trust that we w...Fascinating reading, thanks Ken. I trust that we will be getting this and more in a paper, or book ven?<br /><br /><br />RegardsLazarushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11002628037154288374noreply@blogger.com